Just an Ambulance Driver
I’ve made a concerted effort recently not to complain so much. The world is changing, and my job is changing, and the people we encounter are changing. There’s no point in complaining about these things, because complaining won’t fix them.
Tonight, though, I couldn’t help it. We ran the entire night, eight calls in eight hours. Not one of them was serious.
We began with a heart attack call at an East Boston housing project. Or, at least it had been classified as a heart attack. Someone called 911 and said the woman was experiencing chest pain. She wasn’t. She complained only of being nervous. Someone had stolen her Klonopin, she told us. She lets all of her neighbors come into her apartment to borrow things, she said, and one of them must have stolen her medicine.
So, of course, she wanted an ambulance to bring her to the hospital to get another prescription. Because that’s what you do when you need more pills, don’t you? Take an ambulance to an emergency department? Refilling a prescription is indeed a life-threatening emergency.
On the way to the hospital, she talked about her predicament with great emotion. “Why doesn’t my doctor believe me?” she demanded to know. “He said on the phone that he wouldn’t write me a new prescription. He says he has to guard against drug abuse. Does he really think I’m going to abuse Klonopin? Nobody abuses Klonopin.”
“If nobody abuses Klonopin, then why would somebody steal yours?” I asked.
She never answered the question. Instead, she changed the topic.
After that, we went to a senior citizens’ complex for a man who couldn’t breathe. Or so we were told. In fact, he’d suffered a stroke nearly ten years ago, and has breathed through a tracheotomy tube ever since. Tonight, while a nurse was checking up on him, she attached some kind of adapter to the outside of the tube, something that was supposed to help him talk. This made no sense to me at all, since, according to one of the man’s daughters, he’s been in a coma for almost a decade.
When the nurse saw him struggling to breathe, she immediately removed the new piece. The man’s breathing returned to normal. We talked to all three of the patient’s daughters, and they agreed that he looked just like he always does. But the nurse insisted on sending him to the hospital. She’d already talked to a doctor, she said, and she wanted him to come in for an evaluation. So off we went to the hospital, with a patient whose problem had been resolved, based on the word of a nurse who had panicked, on the orders of a doctor who was miles away.
Next we went to a homeless shelter. Like our first call, this one was billed as a cardiac problem. One of the shelter volunteers came outside to meet us. “He’s really intoxicated, and he’s putting up quite a fight,” he said. “I don’t know if he’ll want to go with you.”
“Then why did you call us?” my partner asked.
“Well, he wanted to go outside to smoke, and when I told him he couldn’t, he said he had chest pain and wanted to go to the hospital.”
A drunk man was demanding an ambulance after having being denied the opportunity to smoke. It didn’t sound like much of a cardiac problem to me. But there was no point in debating the issue. We went inside to look at him.
“What’s happening tonight?” I asked the man.
“Got pains in my chest,” the man snorted, glaring at me angrily.
“How long have you had these pains?”
“Since yesterday.”
“Off and on? Or continuously?”
“The whole time.”
“Have you ever been to a hospital for these pains before?”
He looked at me as if I were an idiot. “Yeah. Yesterday.”
“You went to the hospital yesterday for this pain? And you’re still having it?”
“Yes! That’s what I’m telling you!”
“Well, what did the doctor say yesterday?”
“He didn’t say nothin’.”
I can’t stand it when people say that to us. No doctor in the history of medicine ever discharged a patient without explaining the diagnosis. Even if a doctor admits that he can’t identify the cause of a patient’s illness, he will always tell the patient something. And if you were discharged without being told anything, then wouldn’t you be curious enough to ask what the diagnosis was?
Not this man, apparently. When I asked again what the doctor had told him was wrong, he said, “Look. Are you going to take me to the hospital or not?”
Yes, sir. Right away, sir. Step outside to our ambulance. We’re the highest-paid taxi drivers in the city.
Next we went to our favorite destination: a neighborhood health center. According to the doctor there, our patient had come in with dangerously low blood pressure, so she’d started an IV.
The man was sitting up in bed, looking quite comfortable. I asked him how he felt.
“Pretty good,” he said.
“What made you come to the health center today?”
“I was feeling a little tired.”
“You feel okay now?”
“Yeah. Sure.”
I took his blood pressure. It was 140 over 80. Normal.
“Want me to walk out to the ambulance?” the man asked.
“No, that’s okay. We’ll wheel you out on the stretcher. If you’re feeling tired, we don’t want you walking around.”
We started toward the door.
“Wait!” the doctor called. “You can’t leave yet! I haven’t written my report!”
This left me speechless. The City of Boston operates just five paramedic units on the day and evening shifts, and one of them had been tied up on a call that could have been handled by a taxi. I can understand an ordinary citizen making this mistake, because many people just don’t know any better. But this was a doctor. She’s supposed to know how the health system works. And she wanted to keep twenty percent of Boston’s paramedic resources waiting while she trotted off to her office to write a report.
I’d had enough. I was about to tell her not to bother writing her report because we were leaving without it. Fortunately, my partner intervened. “You can fax it over to the hospital,” he said. “It’ll get there before we do.”
This sounded like a good idea to the doctor. I felt like screaming as we wheeled the man outside.
After that, we went to a nursing home. A nurse had called 911 because the patient had felt lightheaded briefly. By the time we arrived, he was feeling fine. But the nurse insisted that he go to an emergency department. She was concerned because his heart rate was low.
We checked the man’s pulse. It was 68. The low side of normal.
“Do you have high blood pressure?” I asked him.
“Why, yes. I do.”
“Do you take medication for it?”
“Yup. I take something called Toprol.”
“Thank you, sir. That’s helpful to know.” Toprol keeps blood pressure in check by slowing the heart rate. His heart was beating slowly because it was supposed to be beating slowly. Once again, we were taking a patient to the hospital on the instructions of a healthcare professional who didn’t understand that his condition was normal.
And finally, with twenty minutes left to go in the shift, we were sent to the opposite end of the city, where a woman was having trouble breathing. After cleaning a bathroom, she’d sat down to smoke. Now she was having trouble catching her breath.
Imagine that. Feeling short of breath after smoking.
Fortunately, a pair of EMTs arrived on the scene before we did. Recognizing that we couldn’t do anything to fix the patient’s smoking habit, they cancelled our response.
Returning to the station, I realized why I felt so frustrated. It wasn’t because the people who’d called us didn’t seem to understand the definition of an emergency, although that was certainly true. And it wasn’t because we had been kept busy all night on non-urgent matters, making us unavailable for true emergencies—although that was certainly true as well.
What really bothered me was the way our job has changed. Together, my partner and I had more than forty years of experience handling emergencies. We are extremely well trained. We’re certified in CPR, and Advanced Cardiac Life Support, and as hazardous materials technicians. We’ve attended Advanced Trauma Life Support courses alongside physicians, and Critical Care Transport courses alongside flight nurses. We’ve handled hundreds of cardiac arrests, and hundreds of shootings, and at times, we’ve even rescued people from fires and wrecked vehicles.
And what did we spend our night doing? Driving healthy people to the hospital without even treating them.
Now, don’t get me wrong. I’m not saying that I’m too good for this kind of work. I’m not above taking care of a stroke victim, or a man who nearly fainted, or a woman suffering a panic attack. But this isn’t the way the system is supposed to work. Wheelchair vans exist for a reason. They are supposed to be used for the transport of people who can’t get around on their own, but don’t have a medical emergency. Something is clearly wrong with a system that utilizes highly trained, highly paid, experienced health care providers to transport relatively healthy people back and forth to hospitals, where they don’t even rate a bed in the acute section of the emergency department.
And yet, that’s all we did tonight.
I’m not sure where the problem lies. Maybe nurses who work outside of hospitals need to have better training in the identification of emergencies. Maybe doctors need to be told that city ambulances are not taxis. Maybe the city should buy more vehicles, and hire more EMS personnel. Maybe the people taking the 911 calls should be allowed to ask more questions, to get a better idea of what’s really going on at the scene.
But what do I know?
As far as most people are concerned, I’m just an ambulance driver.


35 Comments:
Just a thought...especially since I believe that you possess a law degree...health care professionals who are licensed and work in clinics, do home visits,etc. are probably fearful that if they don't send these people that they see leave themselves open to potential lawsuits...."what if?"..so to speak on the off chance that the patient's condition changes...in other words "let someone else be responsible for discharging a patient from their care"...the situation may become exascerbated with the opening of these "mini-clinics" in neighborhood drug stores and in all probability you will become a lot busier in the future! As for a solution...I wish I had one!..still sounds better that the situation in Italy as you previously described...great blog BTW..J
First of all, I love reading your blog.
Having formerly worked in a system that did not bill for services (free taxi ride no matter what) and working now in a system that has a lot of poverty (EMS=Primary care provider) I know exactly what you're talking about. I've spent the last year of my life to become a Nationally Registered Medic, certified in ACLS, PALS, ITLS, blah blah blah. How often do I use my training beyond the EMT-B level? Maybe 10% of the time. This is our society, though, and all the solutions you suggest would help. I'm not above driving someone to the hospital...while I work EMS and not transport, I try not to get angry when I run 90% of my calls which are truly routine transport. I have two major problems, however:
1. The county where I work is 315 square miles (yes, I looked this up). It has a population of 35,000. My agency is one of three in the county, and we run 2200 calls a year. None of these numbers are anywhere near the numbers in Boston (except maybe geographical size). The problem is that I have been the only ALS provider in the county on more than one occasion. If my ambulance is out on a BLS run (we dont prioritize our dispatch) and a cardiac arrest comes in, the next closest ALS unit is 20 minutes away, given no traffic and being close to the county line. Hasn't happened to me yet, but back when I was an EMT-B, I was that BLS provider that did CPR for 20 minutes before the ALS got there.
2. I dont know what Boston does, but in both systems in which I work, we do not issue dispatch priorities. I also work in a system that serves 100,000 people and has enough ALS ambulances and engines to cover the area. That system does triage dispatch, that is, it sends a BLS unit to a BLS sounding call and an ALS unit to an ALS call. However, neither system gives us a priority. We respond (or are supposed to respond) to every call at the same speed, using lights and sirens. Do I use discretion? Yes, but its against policy. I find myself driving faster to codes and other serious calls while i've gone non emergently to "knee pain x2 weeks". What happens when we get in a wreck? If I get hit coming through an intersection (which has happened to me) running lights and siren to a cardiac arrest, fine. If I get hit coming through an intersection running lights and siren for "knee pain x2 weeks" because it is POLICY im not ok with that.
Sorry to rant on your comment board...feel free to check out my blog at virginiaemt@blogspot.com
thanks again!
LAM
You should touch base with "reynolds" who writed Random Acts of Reality (http://randomreality.blogware.com/). He is a London UK based paramedic who complains of exactly the same problems there, only maybe worse because UK health care is not subsidized by private insurance but is a national health care system. Recently on his blog Reynolds advocated that the National Health Service pay for cab fare in order to free up EMS to handle true emergencies.
I think it may be called "everyone has a shitty day at work now and then" Similarly, it's called customer service, you are in a service oriented occupation or do you forget that?
About the first call you mentioned...
Klonopin is a scary one. Some kids have started using Klonpin because they're underage to drink, and Klonopin is impossible to detect with a breathalyzer or standard blood alcohol test, yet, when taken at too high of a dose, creates the sensation of being drunk. Tragedies have happened when kids have od'd on Klonopins (they refer to them as K-pins), or have taken "K-pins" and beer at the same time. In the town where I live just outside Boston, we had a local teenager who died after taking "K-pins" and drinking heavily at the same time. So yes, I can see why the doctor was very cautious about perscribing any more pills than needed (because its a legal, but controlled, substance, kids often buy it off of someone who has a rx). The pills go for about $3 or $4 per pill, so someone with a few perscriptions could make good money. Friends of mine who work as School Resource Officers (SROs are Police Officers assigned to schools) have said that K-pins and other prespription drugs are by far their biggest substance issue, more so than illegal street drugs.
As for the other calls- well those just piss me off. I really think that the City should stop sending Boston EMS ambualances to nursing homes or community health centers. In my town, doctors offices call a private ambualance service (usually Armstrong) for transports to the hospital. Couldn't Boston insist that your doctor's offices, nursing homes and health centers do the same thing? And, don't your trucks have radio communication with an MD? If so, for calls that could be handled with a cab (completly non-urgent, not a chance the patient will die in the cab, etc), could there be a policy to allow EMS to refer people who call for frivilous reasons to be referred to a cab, if the MD agrees its non-urgent (I personally think Paramedics are probably more capable of making that call, but an MD's word might hold up better in court). Or, for homeless people who want transport for stupid requests, could Boston Police transport them to the ER in a cruiser? There are far more BPD units on the road, so tieing one of them up seems like a better option than tieing up an ambulance for a homeless call.
Scanner--
In some of the cities around where I work (not mine, however), the nursing homes do indeed have a contract with the transport company...however if the situation seems emergent to the staff, they call 911, and, if the wait is going to be longer than about 30 minutes, they call 911.
The city of Richmond (Richmond Ambulance Authority, then owned by AMR) also tried an EMS based refusal system. The paramedic would evaluate the patient, then, if in the paramedic's opinion, EMS transport was not needed, then the medic would give the patient a voucher for a free cab ride to the hospital and clear the call. They stopped this program (it was a pilot program) because a large percentage of people that were refused transport ended up being admitted to the hospital, thus the company claimed that the paramedics were basically not competent enough to decide what is an emergency (not direct words, but that was implied by their report). The problem I see with this is that first of all we have very little diagnostic equipment on our units, really only your vitals and the cardiac monitor as well as SpO2, and EtCO2 (if you're lucky...we dont have that yet). As I always tell patients who are refusing after an MVC "I dont have an x-ray machine in the ambulance to check and see if anything is broken". Furthermore, people may indeed have serious medical conditions that warrant being admitted, but arent exactly emergent. In 90% of my calls, I do not run lights/siren to the hospital and do either BLS or "routine" ALS (monitor and IV because of protocol). I have only been an ALS provider for a year but other than while precepting in a big city, I can count on both hands how many drugs i've given in the field. Is anything we do in an ambulance going to make a difference in the ultimate outcome? If we are not running lights/siren then we are no quicker than a taxi.
Oh, and TS, sorry for getting so off topic! :-)
ANONYMOUS #1: Maybe. I have to say, though, that having dealt repeatedly with doctors and nurses who have called city ambulances for non-emergent patients, I was left with the distinct impression that virtually all of them either panicked and called us for a situation they didn't know how to treat, or didn't care that they were utilizing scarce resources inappropriately - possibly to other people's detriment.
VAFIREMEDIC: You have good reason to rant, because the situation is even more critical in your system than it is in mine. At the height of rush hour, our second-closest paramedic unit may be twenty minutes away, but it's not usually as bad as that.
The other issues you've raised go a bit beyond the scope of the original post, but they make for interesting reading nonetheless.
ANNYMOUS #2: I've been reading Reynolds' blog for years, and you're absolutely correct - inappropriate ambulance use occurs not just everywhere in the United States, but everywhere in the world.
ANONYMOUS #3: Every time I raise the issue of inappropriate ambulance use, somebody makes a comment like yours.
No, I haven't forgotten that I work in a customer service environment. But more importantly, I work in a field where lives are at stake. I could go cheerfully to each of these calls, pick up the healthy patients, and deliver them to emergency departments without complaint. That's what you seem to want me to do.
But imagine this: Tomaorrow, you're on your way to work. A car smashes into yours, and you're seriously hurt. You need to get to a hospital right away.
Where's the ambulance? It's been ten minutes already, and it's nowhere in sight. You're bleeding severely. If it doesn't come soon, you'll die.
Know where the ambulance is? It's parked in front of a clinic. The doctor over there wants to send a patient to an emergency room for an x-ray. It's not an emergency, but it'll take too long if he waits for one of the commercial ambulance companies, so he picked up the phone and called 911.
The paramedics don't mind. They're getting paid by the hour. They go cheerfully into the clinic, and they take the patient to the hospital, just like the doctor ordered. They smile, and they don't complain. They work in a customer service environment, so it's important not to complain too much.
Meanwhile, you've lost all of your blood. You're going to die. You can't afford to wait another minute. But you have to, because there are no ambulances available. They'll all tied up at clinics.
I'm sorry to be so blunt about this, but maybe then - if you're the one dying while waiting for an ambulance - you'll realize that this is a very big deal, and not just a bad day at work for me.
And maybe you'll wish that a paramedic or an EMT had complained about this problem earlier.
SCANNERBUFF1: You're right - Klonopin is a potentially dangerous drug. Like all benzodiazepines, it suppresses respirations when taken in significant quantities along with alcohol. The woman in the story didn't overdose, though. She just wanted her prescription refilled. I couldn't help wondering if she'd run out after taking them too frequently, and was making up the story abot having them stolen just to get more.
Your suggestions to free up ambulances are great, and I'd love to see any one of them implemented, but they've all been tried at one time or another, without success.
New York City EMS experimented with a program a few years ago that allowed EMS personnel to deny transport when it clearly wasn't indicated. Between the time it took to communicate the situation to a physician or specailly trained nurse, and the time it took to document to call, the EMTs and paramedics decided it was faster, and better for everyone, simply to take the patient to a hospital.
And for while, a long time ago, we encouraged police officers to bring patients to emergency rooms in cruisers. After a few close calls, though, where seriously injured patients were brought to the wrong kinds of hospitals, it was decided that every illness or injury should be handled by an ambulance instead of a police car.
I thank you for your sympathy, though!
No worries, VA...Dialogue is a good, regardless of the topic.
I am an ambulance officer in Western Australia where St Johns have the contract. It is a user-pays system and it seems to deter a lot of the time wasting calls that would otherwise occur. Unfortunately we still get our share from people who are ambulance fund members and have private health insurance. One possible idea could be to make the minimum cost of an ambulance trip double that of what a taxi would be.
I am the wife of a paramedic in Queensland and I know exactly how you feel because my husband cops the same s#%t on his job. But what really gets me angry is when people use the ambulance for silly call outs because they think that they will get seen first at the hospital and this usually occurs in the wee hours of the morning and it is usually drunks.
LIGHTSANDSIRENS: I don't want to sound as if I'm shooting down every suggestion, but the minimum ride in a Boston EMS ambulance is something like $600, while you can go anyplace in the city for around $25, so money isn't much of a deterrent. Most of the people who use ambulances for alcohol-related problems are on welfare. Since they don't pay the bill, they don't care how much the ride costs.
Thanks for commenting, though; it's great hearing comparisons to services in other countries. (Thanks to Anonymous #5 for the same thing.)
I am a FF/EMT in a city north of Boston and I feel your pain. I consider myself a caring person, but run after run is just the bs TS talks about. It's mind numbing. The only solace I have is we are first responders, and do not transport. I feel extra bad for our contracted ALS/BLS crews who do.
As a non medially affiliated person in living in Boston it does sound like people are taking advantage of the system.
I just hope that if I am ever in a real emergency that you are not tied up ferrying people around rather then attending to real emergencies.
Thanks to both of you for the comments.
It's just so good to see you back. You have a gift for turning all the crazy, frustrating, B.S. into cogent, intelligent and (often) funny commentary. As an RN in a Boston hospital I usually see Chapter 2 of the dramas you write Chapter 1 about.
Anonymous 3 must work for a hedge fund or something;)
Thanks, Beverly. That's funny.
Your blog is what helped me return to my first love of medicine and return to school for pre-med after graduating less than four months ago with a completely unrelated degree.
I find the statement that your position is of customer service laughable. I work at Blockbuster. THAT'S customer service. Medicine is not customer service. You are providing a service, but not to "customers". By being a service provider, the appreciation is for you, not the "customer".
Like already mentioned, I can see how some people are afraid of being sued or accused of not doing their job. "Better safe than sorry" and all of that. Your frustration is extremely valid, and it's not going to change until the public gets angry when a ten year old child dies because an ambulance was transporting a homeless drunk.
So yeah...love your blog.
I'm working as an EMT doing mostly non-emergent transfers, and that means I frequently deal with nursing homes. What drives me absolutely CRAZY is the nurses, who supposedly have way more medical training than I do (after all, I'm an EMT-B, the most I can do medically is administer baby aspirin), who seem to be entirely clueless.
We got rerouted the other day to one of the nursing homes we frequent for hyertension. I took the BP 3 times, and my partner took it twice-- not once was it over 110 systolic. The nurse then decides to explain that she patient has chronic htn, and that she was given her meds half an hour ago. The nurse hadn't bothered rechecking the BP, of course. The patient herself didn't even know she was going to the hospital until we showed up--she'd been out eating breakfast.
Things like this are incredibly frustrating to me, and they must be even more so to you (at least in my case, I'm not a 911 bus being tied up). The biggest problem isn't being called for crap, its being called for crap by nurses and clinic doctors and other people who have a higher level of training than I do, who should be able to realize that gee, maybe giving her the meds will lower her BP, just like they're supposed to!
Anonymous1 has a point-many of these docs and nurses, when they call me (which they seldom do, I have to add), specifically mention fear of lawsuit as the reason they're sending the patient. Sending them is the 'safe' thing to do. My answer to that is: Be a professional. Do your job. All you're doing is turfing the liability to me (I'm an ER doc), and all I'm going to do with most of these folks is send them home, usually unhappy because I've 'wasted their time', because I haven't done any tests (because they don't need any) and haven't given them what they want (because it would be the Wrong Thing To Do. I don't like aiding and abetting drug abuse; it makes me feel dirty). I won't refill the Klonopin, and I can't fix blood pressure which is normal. It's cases like these that have me getting an MPH and moving to health policy and quality work-to keep people who *can* stay at home and not in the ED, at home and not in the ED.
As for customer service...years ago, when I was a ward clerk (I mean, unit secretary), before med school and residency and all of that, I heard the best answer to this statement, ever. A patient complained to a nurse on the floor that 'the service here was really terrible'. The nurse retorted: "Ma'am, you're not here to get 'service'. You're here to get *care*. And you've received, and will continue to receive, excellent care". And this is something I feel medicine across the board has forgotten, in the rush to commercialize and 'be like a business'; we've become *too much* like a business; a business most people pay for with dollars not their own. If you don't have to pay for it, why not call an ambulance? Why not go to "the best hospital"? (which, by the away, usually isn't any better than the 'second best' hospital right around the corner).
*sigh* I just dropped down markedly in hours, in part in frustration that I can't have more of an impact on issues like these; I'm moving to a field where I can (public health, in particular health policy and quality). Wish me luck. Excellent blog; thanks for writing.
CHRISTINE: I'm glad to know that I'm not alone in thinking the way that I do. Thanks for the support. I have to admit, though, that it scares me to think that someone is making career decisions based on what I write! :) Best of luck.
RACHEL: You raise a great point. EMS personnel are different from nurses or doctors in that we specialize in just one thing - emergencies. A nurse can take a job assisting with healthy-baby examinations or assisting with open-heart surgery - two very different things. A doctor can make his living doing occupational health checkups or doing brain surgery - two very different things. But we are trained only to treat emergencies outside of the hospital. We can never do anything else.
Since the focus of our education and experience is so narrow, we tend to become very good at it. A nurse might go to school longer, but if she spends her entire career overseeing elderly patients in a nursing home, she will find it difficult to handle a life-threatening emergency. That's not something she does very often, and it's not something she has been specially trained to do.
To a lesser extent, this holds true for doctors, too. They have to go through an emergency medicine rotation in med school, but how much of that experience will they retain after they've been in private practice as, say, a dermatologist, for fifteen or twenty years? Even a doctor will have trouble handling an emergency if it's not a part of his regular duties.
In short, people are not necessarily "emergency experts" simply because they have "RN" or "MD" after their names. Conversely, we might be "just" EMTs or paramedics, but that doesn't mean that we should blindly follow the instructions of someone with virtually no practical experience in handling a given problem.
Great comment. Thank you.
DOCORION: Your point about "service" is an excellent one, as is your criticism of doctors who refuse to accept responsibility for their own decisions. Being a doctor yourself, your observations carry more weight than mine ever could.
I do wish you luck. You're about to undertake a serious challenge, and one that I suspect will be fraught with even greater frustration than any patient you ever encountered in the ED!
Do a good job, and make a difference. Health care providers and patients alike are ready for change.
I relish returning to a country where this problem exists. I've been in Malaysia for three years, near my husband's family, and here if you call an ambulance even for the most serious possible case, it quite possibly simply won't come. (Some ambulances work on a consignment or bribe system, and they work out if they'll get enough $ if they come get you or not.) Or it will take more than an hour. Once you're in the ambulance, you will be in the company of a DRIVER only--very likely NOT a paramedic. The ambulance will be devoid of life-saving stuff: just the gurney inside an empty van. And then, even with the horns and lights on, many drivers simply will not make way, and it can take far too long to get to the hospital.
The knowledge of all this, understandably, makes me very nervous, especially since I've got young children.
It sucks that the fantastic system the US has gets abused. But boy, do I miss it. Kudos to you and everyone else involved in running an efficient and crucial system, with well-trained medical staff. The rest are simply the problems of civilization.
ts wrote (way down the page):
"In short, people are not necessarily "emergency experts" simply because they have "RN" or "MD" after their names. Conversely, we might be "just" EMTs or paramedics, but that doesn't mean that we should blindly follow the instructions of someone with virtually no practical experience in handling a given problem."
My favorite experience: working an out of hospital cardiac arrest, and a gentleman forced his way past the two cops shouting "I'm a doctor, let me through."
I looked at him, no way he looked familiar to me, so I asked him to show the cops some ID. Turns out he was from halfway across the country, in the area visiting, as was not even licensed in the state we were in. Turned out he was an orthopedic surgeon. When I looked at the cop and made a face, the cop said "If they break his leg carrying him out, we'll call you."
Sounds like the side effect of living in a litigious society to me.
In regard to "Christine". this is in NO WAY meant to discourage your pursuit in any way...if you work in a Hospital setting you will find out that its all about "customer care" and high patient satisfaction survey results! And I do sympathize with the ED doc...I think that many critical healthcare personnel are lost to other areas due to many of the abuses listed by TS. And many doctors and nurses (non- emergent)aren't capable of performing properly in emergency situations due to lack of continuous emergency training..and as we live in such a litigious society...there is an attitude of "CYA" and I'm sure many know what that stands for...therefore, non-emergent admissions continue...
JERRY THE FORMER MEDIC: Great story. Thanks!
ANNH: Thanks for the information. That was fascinating.
One of my former ambulance partners used to say, "I'll never travel to a country where people don't speak English." This had nothing to do with the types of people he'd encounter, but rather, he used language as screening process to eliminate from his travel plans any country that couldn't provide him with adequate health care if he became sick or injured while there.
I don't agree with his method (certainly there are English-speaking nations that are too poor to provide good care, and vice-versa), but he raises a good point: When traveling, you really should take into account the health care you'll receive if something bad happens to you.
And based on your description, it doesn't sound as if the Phillipines are such a good place to be.
Another former partner of mine went to Russia with some American doctors, to make suggestions about improvements to the EMS system over there. What he found left him stunned. EMS personnel don't carry patients down stairs. If you get sick on the fifth floor, your family has to carry you down, or else you don't go to the hospital. And like you described, the ambulances contain no medical equipment whatsoever.
All of a sudden, EMS around here doesn't seem so bad.
"In some of the cities around where I work (not mine, however), the nursing homes do indeed have a contract with the transport company...however if the situation seems emergent to the staff, they call 911, and, if the wait is going to be longer than about 30 minutes, they call 911."
See, around here, many of the nursing home emergencies go to the privates as well, even though we didn't necessarily have the manpower to deal with. One of my favorites was an unresponsive, BP of 50, and oh hey look at that 30 seconds of apnea. And my rookie Basic doesn't know how to get to the closest ER.
So while that could have gone 911, their minor GI bleeds, dislodged Foleys, and "abnormal labs" are not. Gotta take the bad with the good I guess.
"Similarly, it's called customer service, you are in a service oriented occupation or do you forget that?"
I bet you think "The customer is always right," too. Yeah, I can see you lasting a day in retail. LOL
It's OK. You're allowed to vent once in awhile after 20 years on the street. I think you've earned it.
Ha ha! I loved this post! I work in Worcester and Lawrence, and although you're writing about Boston, it's all the same.
One of my colleagues has a saying that makes me chuckle after each interaction with the health care establishment: "That's why they call it 'practicing' medicine."
Great blog! I look forward to reading it more.
Here in Tx we have the same problem. We have some medical backing that if a pt only complaint is "need a prescription refilled" we do not take them. All the rest are true. In fact we have a County Clinic that has there OWN EMS and still call us when the "think" it is an Emergency (great use of taxpayer money). We are an all ALS system and still on a regular basis run out of EMS units. The answer is not an easy one but we can not just keep adding EMS units for the back pain, panic attacks and "I don't feel good"....and as customer service goes I am kind, gentle and respectful to all my customers/patients until they give me a reason not to be and that is often the case.
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Sorry TS, what I meant was that all patients, even those who are on welfare should pay SOMETHING, and that something should significantly exceed the cost of a taxi. Perhaps the fee could be waived if the patient was treated as Priority 1 or 2 for transport after assessment.
This is the way the cookie crumbles sometimes. In my service, we've had 3 of our units in one area of the county picking up "BS" calls while a local private company was working the MVA with a ST. Of course we all wanted to go on THAT call, but you can't always. Everybody gets their share. Sometimes the way I look at it is that either way, I'm getting paid by the hour...
You should really get a new job. It's crap like this that causes us all to be labeled non professional. You signed on for the job, and I dare say that in Boston, make a TON more money than most places. Build a bridge and get over it!
No, it's idiots like you, BrowardMedic, telling the rest of us to get new jobs because, God forbid, we have an opinion.
Blow me, you wacker. I'm so sick of people like you on these boards.
You tell TS to get a new job because he ventures to say that he doesn't like doing nonsense, and you rip him for it, but I know for a fact you'll be crying like a little baby later today when you get that late call to Crusty Meadows Nursing Home for the fall.
It's easy to crap on a guy in between nursing home and dialysis runs in sunny Florida, but just know that the guy who writes this blog has more time in the supply closet than you have on the road, and not only that but he's been doing it in one of the most challenging systems in the world (and no, I don't work there).
I work for an urban 911 hospital-based system not too far west of Boston and we've had some negative press lately.
The public has rightly called into question the performance of a couple of our -- former -- medics on a call, and that I understand.
What I don't understand are all the wannabes and posers like BrowardMedic who come out of the woodwork to crap on whole services, about which they know nothing.
I don't think you should get a new job, BrowardMedic. Please, by all means, stay down there in Florida and eat your oranges and pat yourself on the back and tell yourself how great you are.
Do whatever you want, just don't come up here, where the medics work for a living.
Sorry, BrowardMedic, but I respectfully disagree.
I feel that these things NEED to be brought up. Look at the issues I complained about in this post: People calling for ambulances when they're not really needed. Incompetent health care providers. People being less than honest with the EMS personnel trying to help them. Improper utilization of lifesaving resources.
By tying up ambulances unnecessarily, these things put people's lives at risk. I'd rather discuss them, and risk being viewed as unprofessional, then allow them to continue unchecked.
But that's just my opinion.
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